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Why Acy Deserved the Technical and Scheyer Didn't

Posted on: March 29, 2010 1:45 pm
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There was a thread created right after Duke's win about how Scheyer deserved a technical foul and Acy didn't.  Somehow this thread managed to get over 200 replies and build up the most hate for any team I've ever seen on a message board.

I remember this play perfectly and I already know Acy deserved the technical and Scheyer wasn't even close to one.  Still, I've watched the replay on MMOD a few times and a thread is necessary to put this to rest.

What Happened:

With about 1:30 left in the game Scheyer brought the ball up with Duke up eight.  Everyone knew Baylor was going to foul at some point, and they went after him right when he stepped over half court.  Keep in mind on Duke's previous possesion Lance Thomas had a put back dunk and hit a free throw.  Baylor was as frustrated as ever and slapped/grabbed at Scheyer for a good 2.5 seconds, one of those seconds was happening after the foul had been called.  Quincy Acy pushed Nolan Smith from behind and started a big rumble at half court.  Where was Scheyer during this?  Well behind the whole thing by himself with the ball in his hands.  Acy was given a tech and Scheyer wasn't given anything.  The technical ended any hopes Baylor had of coming back.

Why Scheyer Didn't Deserve a Technical:

I'm not sure how anyone could honestly think Scheyer should have been teched right there.  He swung his elbows after the whistle was blown to get the two Baylor players off him.  Once they stopped molesting him, he stopped swining his elbows and walked right over to the refs to avoid anything extra.  It was clear he used his elbows just to clear space and get players off him, just like players were doing after they grabbed a rebound all game.  He got right out of the play and didn't say anything extra like the Baylor players wanted him to.

So how could Scheyer possibly be given a technical?  You're telling me they're going to tech a player for that with a minute left in a game where Baylor had been playing dirty and talking trash the whole time?  There was no chance Scheyer was going to get a technical and he didn't deserve one.  When I was watching the game I thought the refs had called a double technical on Smith and Acy, I never once though about Scheyer.

Why Acy DID Deserve a Technical:

After Scheyer swung his elbows the two Baylor players obviously weren't happy, but they were on their way back to their bench and didn't plan on starting any trouble.  Scheyer did the same thing.  Now Quincy Acy was standing at the three point line while the Scheyer incident was happening at half court.  I guess Quincy Acy wanted to stick up for his teammates, but he did so by sprinting into the play after the people involved were leaving and he pushed Nolan Smith, who also wasn't involved.  Smith turned around right away and Acy got in his face and started the big rumble at half court.  He was deservingly t'd up.

So how can someone say that doesn't deserve a technical?  He wasn't involved in the play and after the main incident was over he started a brand new one with Nolan Smith, who also wasn't involved.  He pushed a player and got in his face, no one else on the floor did anything nearly as bad as that, including Scheyer.  That rumble at half court had everything to do with Acy and nothing to do with Scheyer.  The refs weren't going to tech anyone up because of what happened with the elbows, they just wanted to settle things down.  Then Acy started a whole new problem, and basically made the refs give him a technical.

There's no question that the refs made the right call there.
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Since: Mar 20, 2010
Posted on: March 31, 2010 5:52 am
 

Why Acy Deserved the Technical and Scheyer Didn't

Baylor was as frustrated as ever and slapped/grabbed at Scheyer for a good 2.5 seconds, one of those seconds was happening after the foul had been called. It was a TO not a foul.

He pushed a player and got in his face, no one else on the floor did anything nearly as bad as that, including Scheyer. He bumped Smith. It didn't look like he extended his arms at all into an actual push. Dunn did actually push Scheyer earlier in the play before he walked away and that looked more egregious. Personally I didn't think a tech needed to be called on anyone unless Acy said something that caused it. A timeout had been called and that gave the players plenty of time to calm down and the refs time to talk to the coaches and make sure everybody returned to the court with cool heads. I'm not saying it was a bad call or even a wrong call but I do think I would have handled it differently if it was my call to make.

As for the Duke hate well it's part of being a Duke fan. People who hate Duke watch Duke games for two reasons A) to see Duke lose and B) to dissect every play, foul, loose ball, rebound, turnover, etc, etc, etc so that they can find one or two things that go Duke's way and turn it into a conspiracy theory about how the refs, CBS, ESPN, the NCAA, and probably Obama at this point all want Duke to win every game and the NCAA tourney every year.





Since: Oct 12, 2008
Posted on: March 29, 2010 2:21 pm
 

Why Acy Deserved the Technical and Scheyer Didn't

The truth is, excessive swinging of the elbows is an AUTOMATIC technical foul, regardless of circumstances. Not to mention the fact that he swung just after the whistle was blown.So you're telling me a technical is called everytime someone swings their elbows a little bit too much?  Baylor's big guy was throwing elbows in the lane all game, Zoubek uses his to clear space everytime he gets a rebound.  There had been chippy plays all game, that wasn't going to get called.

It seemed to me as though they were going to let the players play and then decided after the bump by Quincy Acy that they weren't going to. 
They did let the players play.  They let the elbows and the extra reaching go and they just wanted the teams to return for their benches and for everything to calm down.  Then Quincy Acy runs into a play he wasn't even involved in and pushes another player who wasn't involved and starts an unnecessary fight at half court that could have gotten bad.  The refs weren't going to let the game get out of their hands, and it would have if they hadn't called a tech there. 




Since: Mar 29, 2010
Posted on: March 29, 2010 2:13 pm
 

Why Acy Deserved the Technical and Scheyer Didn't

I can tell by this article that you are a complete homer and you hate the world for speaking out against Duke. 
The truth is, excessive swinging of the elbows is an AUTOMATIC technical foul, regardless of circumstances. Not to mention the fact that he swung just after the whistle was blown. Give the guys a chance to get off of you at least. He didn't wait but a split second. 
It either should have been a double technical or a no-call either way. Tensions were running high. Either let the guys play and be physical or call them both for being physical. 
I would call it preferential treatment to not blow a whistle on Scheyer for the excessive swinging of the elbows. There's really no other explanation, as that should be completely automatic. It seemed to me as though they were going to let the players play and then decided after the bump by Quincy Acy that they weren't going to. 
Should have been a double technical. For sure.


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